May 31, 2007

May 31, 2007
Thurs May 31. Holy Smokes Almost June
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Well, the summer is upon us and i hope everyone is ready for swimsuit season! I just ate a delicious philadelphia pretzel and boy do i feel bloated, probably didn’t help that i had two and triscuits and hot chocolate.

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Seth - How did the st george trip come about, was that on a whim? And when did you get a van? Preparing for teh faimily life, that is crazy that you will be the first to have two kids. Jen and i have been trying for over a year now, and with two misscarriages, it can be disheartening, maybe we’ll just have to adopt some chinese baby. well i thought the questions were very intersting, but i could see through michaels question because he was really trying to paint us into a corner by only going with option 3 because we do “everything in our own best interest”, don’t deny it Doms . but the concept was pretty nifty.

So here is a real life could definitely happen story. And Doms, i don’t think you ever answered your own question yesterday. What would your response be?

You are waiting in line at little ceasars (or some store) and this big black guy gets into a rumble with another person in line and eventually just starts beating the crap out of the other person (white or black, doesn’t matter). So what would you do.

Responses could be
A. Do Something (what would it be?)
B. Do nothing.

Comment by jtuffy — May 31, 2007 @ 8:44 am

Again, i would call the cops or more than likely tell someone else to call the cops. I would try to lock the door or something so he couldn’t just leave. Then i would calmly try to get in the guys way. I’ve seen so many videos of people on the internet that just stand there and watch the guy kick the crap out of someone and then let him get away. there is no way i would let it happen if at all possible. I would take some hits or i would just cover up the guy getting pounded. I hate that kind of crap.

Comment by The Scam — May 31, 2007 @ 9:13 am

N. puleez. I have to hurry here, I actually have a job to go to today!! To get paid for! Anyway. My own question: I would think, actually, option 3 is best if you were as limited as I intended the scenario to be (no cell phone, little cover availability, sharp-shooter that doesn’t miss and has already killed many many people, no cars nearby, etc). It would just seem that more casualties of war are necessary to win the war. However, I don’t know if I’d be able to make that decision. My instincts would probably cause me to get his attention and try to stay covered enough that he’d give up and run away. But again, I think that is probably not best considering he’d probably kill us all and continue killing other people under the circumstance.

As for tuffy’s question, this one could be tough too. I’d probably try to be a mediator in the way that I’d try to stop the fight without causing the black guy to feel threatened by me. I’d do this by just trying to break it up. However, I can see your question is intended to be more difficult than that - like the guy isn’t so rational. So in that case, I’d probably resort to either shoving the guy really hard when his attention is not on me, then see what happens next, or if things are really desperate, like he could have a gun or something, I’d probably get the nearest weapon (a chair, or a metal napkin container or something) and pound him in the head as hard as I could when his attention is not on me. All in all, I’d have to do something to stop the fight and save the other guy to some degree. I think I’d hope someone would have called the police by that time. Now tuffy, your answer …

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 9:37 am

i thought about a chair too. i don’t know how that would fly in the court room though. to get away with defense of another person you have to use similar force. if the dude is only using fists, your pretty much stuck with them too.

Comment by The Scam — May 31, 2007 @ 9:39 am

i don’t know, it is a tough one, and i raised because, like cameron, i have seen many internet videos of people just standing around watching, it baffles me. I would probably just yell first, you know, maybe the dude is in a daze and he would snap out of it when he sees all the people around, then i would try to break it up if that didn’t work. Before that though, i would try to motion to another patron for help/support. Usually the crowd is pretty dumb, group think going on, and if they see people helping they would be obliged to help too.

Comment by jtuffy — May 31, 2007 @ 10:00 am

well here is what grace says she would do.

first hit them back.

Then try to be nice.

if they continued, she would say stop it!!! then make them stop fighting by saying stop it!!!

this technique would be gauranteed to work every time.

Comment by Frodo Baggins — May 31, 2007 @ 10:08 am

Yeah I agree with needing to be careful of unnecessary force, but, like I said, if things were really crazy - like the dude was really hostile and could have a weapon - then I’d use whatever is reasonable to me at that split moment. When I said I’d break up the fight, I also meant I’d first yell and try to just break it up while trying to be nonthreatening. Good point about calling on help from other people. I was imagining that no one else could help, but there would probably be a young whipper-snapper or two working there. Alright, gotta go!

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 10:12 am

Here is the question for the ages. you are wrongfully accused and sent to prison. the first night isn’t so bad. Second night you here a little white boy getting beaten nearly to death. The third night is one you will never forget. 5 huge black dudes come in to do the deed. when I say do the deed, I mean rape you. Do you fight to the death, or take it and live another day.

Comment by Frodo Baggins — May 31, 2007 @ 10:13 am

Spence is all subtle with “do the deed”, then blatantly states the meaning - too funny!

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 10:19 am

I don’t think there’d be any winning that fight, but I wouldn’t just bend over for them! I think I’d live though, and the government would owe me soooooooooooooo much money!

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 10:21 am

what’s with violence these days? where do people get off thinking they can be so mean? road rage and what not. it just drives me crazy. people are really rude and they think its funny.

Comment by The Scam — May 31, 2007 @ 10:22 am

That was random scam! My response to smengler would be like Doms’ I’d put up a good fight but probably lose, and probaly live and take it up the bum, i would just make sure i had diarrea!

Comment by jtuffy — May 31, 2007 @ 10:25 am

it didn’t post my comment about how i would never be in that situation because i would beat the crap out of some dude my first day in the big house. that way everyone would know i mean business.

Comment by The Scam — May 31, 2007 @ 10:27 am

Tuffy is good, diarrhea upon command!

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 10:29 am

Yep, I’d put up a good enough fight to be sore in more places than one by the time it’s over.

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 10:30 am

i know what place would be the most sore.

Comment by The Scam — May 31, 2007 @ 10:48 am

okay, how often do you think guys really get it in prison? is just expected or does it only happen to the dorks?

Comment by The Scam — May 31, 2007 @ 11:10 am

i’m sure it doesn’t happen as much as we think it does or would like for it to happen to the bad guys, i bet if you get put in their for kiddie porn or molestation you get it pretty bad though

Comment by jtuffy — May 31, 2007 @ 11:12 am

So is anyone working out besides michael? the swimsuit comment in the post got me thinking how out of shape i am? thata and the idea of having to beat someone up.

Comment by The Scam — May 31, 2007 @ 11:23 am

i’ve been working out a smidge’n. Not much. I ran a 5k the other day, hopefully another one tonight. I was thinking yesterday how cool it would be to start doing triathalons! I need to get a road bike, that would be pretty sweet

Comment by jtuffy — May 31, 2007 @ 11:55 am

you mean you actually competed in a 5k? man, that’s exciting.

kressyda ran from our house to the church the other day. it was like 6 miles. i was like, “man, my wife could kick the crap out of me.” if that’s not motivation . . .

i would love to do triathalons. or at least get into running races.

Comment by The Scam — May 31, 2007 @ 12:52 pm

hey, do you still have the punching bag? would it be worth it to get one. i think it would be a pretty good way to exercise.

Comment by The Scam — May 31, 2007 @ 12:58 pm

it was a 5k on my treadmill! so it wasn’t that hard, but the elevation was changing lol. And yes, we all know that kress can beat the crap out of you.

Punching bags are sweet, we need to get a hanging one, the stand up ones aren’t that great.

Comment by jtuffy — May 31, 2007 @ 1:16 pm

Hey i just uploaded a picture of our powder room that we recently redid, i wish i had a before pic but i don’t, we painted the walls, the vanity, hung a new mirror, put new hardware (toilet roll, towel,…) and put in a granite sink top and new faucet. Jen did pretty all the work, i just did the sink top and faucet! Pretty sweet stuff huh, let me know if you want to hire me!

Comment by jtuffy — May 31, 2007 @ 2:08 pm

Did you just call it a powder room? besides that it looks really nice. did they custom cut the granite for you? how did that work?

Comment by The Scam — May 31, 2007 @ 2:28 pm

nope, that is a home depot premade special, most of the cabinets are stanard size

Comment by jtuffy — May 31, 2007 @ 2:37 pm

So… lots of interesting conversation today (and yesterday) that I’m missing. The van I was on was not mine, it was a shuttle. Even if I had a van, I would not pay to drive it to St George alone… that’s just crazy!

On the mission I knew a couple of guys that were in prison. We used to go to the IF jail, where people were heald for their whole sentance because the prison’s in Idaho are over crowded. We went to talk to people who ordered church video’s over the phone. And the butt sex is not as promenant as the stereotype. It sounds like the big thing is just to stay out of everyone’s face or be so in everyone’s face that they are all scared of you… like Scam said, beat up some guy your first day. Oh, and never call someone in prison or that has been in prison a punk… you’ll get beat down.

As for the marathons… I say lets do it. I was hoping we could do one this summer, but probably a little late. I have been using the eliptical a little bit and now that Rach is out of school, I’m excited to start running again. And I allready have a road bike, so I’m ready to go in that department.

The other thing I really want to get into is trail running. There are alot of trail races around here, that involve crazy elevation changes. Sounds really fun. I miss the old days, after the mission, of running 5-10 miles a day. Good times. When I was living with Jon, I think he thought I was crazy for going running.

Comment by Seth — May 31, 2007 @ 3:02 pm

So you guys took a little vacation down to st. george? Tell mrs stephenson hello. How long you staying down there? Tell your mom to photograph your little family in the nude, then she can hang it up in her studio and she’ll be trendy. LOL

Comment by jtuffy — May 31, 2007 @ 3:28 pm

i’ve wanted to get into trail running as well. the only real place to do it is turkey mountain. which is actually pretty cool.

Comment by The Scam — May 31, 2007 @ 3:35 pm

they need to be burning the u.s. flag in the picture or dumping on it. then it would be really trendy.

Comment by The Scam — May 31, 2007 @ 3:36 pm

Well I’m in the wrong group of exercisers. You guys are all about estrogen around here. Running is for girls.

I saw the “before” state of tuffy’s “powder room”. It looks quite nice now. Before, I felt like I was peeing in front of the neighborhood!

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 3:53 pm

Well at least girls have necks and look in the mirror less often (which is hard to imagine)

Comment by jtuffy — May 31, 2007 @ 3:56 pm

Well you girls will barely have a neck at all for a different reason if you just run and punch on bags.

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 4:02 pm

The family didn’t come, so it will just have to be a naked picture of me crapping on the flag. We felt that having Benj around while I strip and paint the kitchen cabinets wouldn’t be wise.

So, running doesn’t stimulate testoterone? Well, at least the runners could get to the snipper before getting tagged, and they are generaly a smaller target than the meat heads. So, running it is. lol

Comment by Seth — May 31, 2007 @ 4:11 pm

This is Rachel, Seth’s mom just shipped Seth down there for a few days, nothing would get done if Benjamin was there. And Seth’s mom has tried the naked pics of Benjamin when he was just a few days old. After two minutes of the photo shoot he squirted his poop out all over her white blanket, it was pretty funny.

Hey Pie! How’s it going?

Comment by Seth — May 31, 2007 @ 4:13 pm

Man, this whole flag thing and things to do to it is getting out of control.

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 4:29 pm

Man, you’ve got to post that photo!!!

Comment by jtuffy — May 31, 2007 @ 4:32 pm

I beg to differ on one of your assessments there seth. The runners would be much slower therefore they are a sure target! It’d be like molasses jukin and jiven all the way up to the sniper! Plus even if you got there he’d thrash you because you’d have no strength! It’s a lose-lose situation when you choose running over the important stuff.

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 4:33 pm

please, have you seen the runners. they are lithe and nimble. they’d have the sniper all messed up before he knew what hit him.

Comment by The Scam — May 31, 2007 @ 4:54 pm

Do you guys know about the story of Tommy Morrison? He was the boxer (Heavy Weight Champ back in like 94?), got on Rocky with Stallone, remember this guy? Intersting story behind him. I shook his hand when he fought in Tulsa. I also shook George Foreman’s hand that night. Anyway, that night Morrison got beat in like 45 seconds of the first round (knocked down three times)! Anyway, that’s not the point. The point is, in like 96 he was indefinitely suspended from boxing because he tested positive, several times from different sources, for HIV! The crazy part is, he has since been tested numerous times to be negative and has recently returned to boxing! He claims the steroids he was taking have been known to give false positives. Crazy story, huh.

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 5:04 pm

I had reason to believe that Morrison was from OK, but I just ran across a website that gives his full stats and his birthplace of Arizona. However, Wikipedia claims Jay, OK!

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 5:12 pm

i heard he was from OK too. Tommy “the machine” Gunn was his name in Rocky. better watch out for those steroids, they’ll get you every time. that and the unprotected sex.

Comment by The Scam — May 31, 2007 @ 5:16 pm

my mother in-law tried to take naked pictures of eliot too. he opened up a storm of poop all over the carpet. it’s their only defense.

Comment by The Scam — May 31, 2007 @ 5:21 pm

The steroid-claim is his only way to explain why he tested a false positive. That’s funny because I’d bet when he won the championship before all this he and every other boxing official would die saying he never did the juice! Just goes to show you how many are really doing it. It’s very easy to get and get away with!

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 5:22 pm

Well put Scam! Very funny! (post #43)

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 5:23 pm

DOMS, you keep pressing the issue about how many people use it and how easy it is to do it? why do you feel so strongly about the situation?

Comment by The Scam — May 31, 2007 @ 5:47 pm

Because I near hate most people that use them! They are liers and they mislead people. They use steroids, get great results devoid of any real science behind their workouts and nutrition, and they claim you can get their results if you do what they say because they obviously know. Also, they sell supplements and crap under the same pretenses. Eventually, the youngster will see he can’t get the results he was promised, so he then turns to the sure thing - the steroids. Then he becomes one of these losers. What do you think?

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 5:55 pm

i just think it sucks that we glorify their use. i.e. baseball, WWE wrestling, overall hotness in the media. it’s like most things that require no work. get rich quick schemes never work but lazy people sure by into it.

i wish there would be more of a crack down on steroid use. i mean there is in pro sports, but no where else.

Comment by The Scam — May 31, 2007 @ 6:24 pm

You’re funny. You think they crack down on pro players? We are bigger and faster in the sports than ever … by far! Do think it is just genetic? Do you think it is science? Nope. Off season is the easy part. During season you just have to be more discreet. They don’t want you to be caught.

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 6:29 pm

i like the term “we” you are using, so you finally admit to shooting up? Steriods are for little weiners, literally

Comment by jtuffy — May 31, 2007 @ 6:52 pm

You got me tuffy. The only reason I choose to do them, though, is to reduce my massiveness so your mom can handle it a little better. My improved physique is just a consequence.

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 7:07 pm

I just edited this post. It previously stated a great new question (if you happened to read it, then just forget about it for now). I chose to temporarily remove it because I am leaving first thing in the morning for Virginia (7+ hour drive) and I won’t be able to keep up with the responses to my own question. We’ll have to wait for Monday for this one. I can’t wait!

Comment by DOMS 287 — May 31, 2007 @ 10:51 pm