April 23, 2007

April 23, 2007
Monday April 23rd 2007. Spence has a new Grill!
Filed under: Uncategorized — Jimmy Hostility @ 12:56 am


Anybody got any thoughts on The Rev Al Sharpton? do you guys know much about him? He is ridiculous. Lets plan a time to get together. Make it happen folks.

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Yes we should all have 360’s, then we could “blog” in person! LOL. And don’t let live fool you seth, spence just has a bad set up for a router, he needs to get a new one. I played so many games this weekend, it was ridiculous, i kinda feel brain-dead, too much gaming isn’t good! But its not a bad release every once in a while.

I don’t kow anything about the Rev Al Sharpton besides his promotion of black people over anybody else. Does that about cover it?

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 7:54 am

It’s funny that you view the Rev. Sharpton as putting black rights above everything else. I have been looking into the philosophies of some activist organizations recently and this is a very common theme. Basicaly the idea starts with Ghandi, and it is that if you see injustice in the world, you don’t rest until it is stopped. This can be extreme, and it does often put one group ahead of another. But, often these people realize that it takes this kind of extreamism to acomplish the smallest change. People felt the same way about Martin Luther King Jr that you do about Al Sharpton. I don’t think Al Sharpton, Martin Luther King Jr., Ghandi and many other activists and their organizations care only about one group, but by acting like they do they are able to create change. Even “good ol’” O’Riely uses this tactic. He has some pretty moderate views… but you don’t hear him focusing on those too often! By taking an extream these individuals are able to move the popular opinion and policy into balance.

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 9:46 am

I have to add… my personal jurry is still out on this idea. I can see the good of it, but I also see alot of problems. In reading through some of Soulforce’ forums I have come across a common ocurance. People post the question, is Soulforce requirement of other’s to accept a behavior they find imoral hypocritical… since they refuse to accept our beliefs? These people claim to be non-violent, even in thought and speach, but you should hear the angry responses these people get.I personaly think these folks are loaded with hypocrisy. But they feel that people are killing themselves because of what they are taught by main stream Christianity and they are bound and determined to stop it. And it’s true… there are many gender identity related suicides. So where is the line between compasion for these confused and often emotionaly and phisicaly abused individuals and maintaining Christian beliefs? It’s kind of a grey area. I think alot of these folks are diluded hypocrits who are going to an extreme to justify their own sins BUT they are right that there needs to be more compasion and less violence toward those with gender identity confusion.

My point is, I don’t know where the line is. I don’t know if this tactic is the best way to create social change. But it works… so can we blame people for using it until a better way is found?

Actualy, I doubt there is a better way. The only real force that has power to change people and society is the attonement and gospel of Christ. So, knowing this… should we stand out against organazations that use this kind of, shal we say, “reverse targeted discrimination”? Or should we let them continue to move society toward a balance until the gospel of Christ fills the world and there is no need for these organizations?

Once again… I don’t know. But, I hope you take the time to think about it before you come to a conclusion. I think that we need to explore our beliefs a little more. When we decide what we think and believe… are we opening ourselves to pride and shuting off inspiration? I think we need to explore the topic and be guided by faith, gopel principles and the Holy Ghost and not “make up our own minds.” Lately I have felt that there are too many people that cut the Lord out of their lives this way. (sorry, kind took off on a tangent there!)

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 10:14 am

And what a tangent it was, Seth!! As for Seth’s first post, I agree 100%. Al Sharpton will drive you nuts if you focus solely on his racist claims and attacks; but actually, it’s just as Seth said - there needs to be one extreme for another in order to balance in the middle. I believe the majority is in the middle because of the extremes on both ends. I think Rev. Sharpton really means well. Did you see how he came out when Michael Richards (Cramer from Seinfeld) did his racial thing on stage? Richards was out of line, and the black leaders, like Rev. S., acted appropriately (my opinion). Rev. S actually agreed to speak with Richards and allow him to apologize. That was a great example.

Anyway, Jonny. You and me must be on the same page. The topic I wanted to bring up all weekend is similar. I just thought I’d google my last name on Friday and I was surprised at the names and stories that came up. I’d say 90% of the news was about some Coday being indicted for murder! However, one interesting story popped up you guys just have to check out. Even if you don’t want to read the whole thing, you must open the following link and read what it’s about and let us know your take on it:

http://media.www.thebatt.com/media/storage/paper657/news/2003/03/04/Opinion/Funding.White.Education-513994.shtml

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 10:53 am

Well there are some intersting comments, first on the manner of extremisim - i agree with you seth that this is how these extreme groups function, but i don’t condone it. Like you said, most people are in the middle-ground with these wackos jockeying back and forth pushing the extreme to get the group to move a little. However, the pendelum always comes back again. You do not need to be an extremist to get your point of view across. Extremist live for the attention, and money. This sharpton guy is probably a decent person with good intentions caught up in his own ego and power. Extremism on either side is not good. Like you said, if everyone just lived the gospel, we wouldn’t have these types of problems. The media is the big ones to blame too, if they didn’t blow the Kramer thing out of proportion, know one would ever know about it! There are much more worse things that go on then some idiot screaming racial slurs, it happens everyday, just do pay attention to those dim-witts.

Michael, What page are you talking about? Googleing? Where were you this weekend huh? Very convientient that we both rented Call of Duty and u didn’t.. I read the article, it wasn’t very good but the main point was. I would totally donate my money to a white man scholarship! I think it is a great idea and long overdue, and I’m indian! LOL To say that a white-man isn’t discriminated against is a blantant lie, i don’t there is more hatred or discrimination against anybody than the “white-man”

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 11:20 am

Scam! What are you doing on the Cheatin wives page?? LOL

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 11:21 am

Scam is on the cheatin wivs page cuz I am sure Kresyda wears the pants in that family. Cammy fits right in on the wives page.

Comment by James Dean — April 23, 2007 @ 11:25 am

“OH SNAP!”

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 11:26 am

And Al Sharpton is as big of a racist as there is. He just sits around looking for White folks to harrass. If his agenda really was helping black people he would spend his time doing that. But instead he just spends his time trying to take down white folks, and promote black power. Racism in the US is a joke. White people in general haven’t been racist in a long time. The average white american isn’t racist. But the average Black american is very much so. And white people spend all their time worrying about being politically correct and not offending someone. The reality is black people like Al Sharpton are keeping themselves down by saying poor us, we can’t do anything, we need the white man give us money and oportunities because we can’t create it ourselves. And stupid white folks go along with it. You want a good example of what Al Sharpton should be doing check out Bill Cosby. He has it figured out. He spends his time telling black people to stop whining, and make it happen for them selves. Tells them to get educations, stop killing each other, and not to wait for someone else to do it for them. He spends his time promoting education mostly. And he doesn’t throw the blaim on white people, or slavery or anything else stupid. And I am sure he is making a big difference. So you don’t have to be a racist extremist to make a difference.

And Yes I would support the white mans college fund. Maybe we should found that. That could be our business.

Comment by Cleveland Steamer — April 23, 2007 @ 11:42 am

Yeah, the article quality was not my focus, just the topic. It certainly wasn’t a very good article. I think it is just too funny that this is an issue at all. Jon’s right, the white man is the most discriminated against! I have a funny example: I think the blacks, for example, are pushing so hard and seeing everything as racist, that they actually hurt themselves. I imagine a big time commercial being created (like geico or something) and they need to cast a phenomenal part for an uneducated homeless criminal. And a black man comes in and blows everyone away with his talent and perfection for the part. However, the cast director says, “Man, you are fantastic! You are perfect! BUT, I can’t cast you for this part in fear that we will violate racial standards. Sorry, you’ll have to keep searching for your breakthrough part.” Okay, this may not be realistic, I don’t know. I’m sure you can rearrange it to be more realistic where it could actually happen. It’s just a thought.

Jon, Brooke needed me this weekend. It was very clear that it was a bad idea for me to play at all. If you would have given me more than a day to be prepared for such a weekend, then I may have had a better chance. Nothing I could do, but I’m happy I spent the time with her under the circumstances.

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 11:43 am

Oh, Jon. I don’t know why you didn’t understand, but I was saying that I Googled my last name and the page I found is the article about Matt Coday and his White Fund (the link I provided).

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 12:05 pm

I agree that Jello Bill’s optimism is fantastic, but he and the Rev. have some diferent goals. The Rev. is trying to act as a media watchdog… since the media doesn’t always do the best job at watching itself. His beef with Richards and Imus was that figures in the public eye should set a positive example, not a negative one. And, that sponsors should demand accountability for negative acts and examples. How is this a bad thing. As for his other acts, I strongly suggest you actualy look at what he is doing. He is a great rolemodel and seems to me a sincere and genuin guy. He is on c-span alot and he is usualy much more optimistic. The only perspective you have is that given to you by the media… and they are playing to your emotions to keep you comin back and watching their sponsors comercials. Try thinking about it instead of regurgitating what you’ve been spoon fed.

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 12:20 pm

I almost forgot… “OH SNAP!”

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 12:25 pm

ok Seth, where is Mr Sharpton when the mayor of New Orleans (black) said in 2006 that “this city will be chocolate at the end of the day” referring how he wants NO to be a black city? Isn’t a mayor of a major city considered to be in the public eye? But nah, nothing, Sharpton was probably there in the back ground giving fist-pounds. Talk about a double-standard. I think Bill Cosby has the right attitude, that was a good reminder.

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 12:31 pm

Maybe we should start a bus pass to new orleans scholarship! OH SNAP!!!!

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 12:32 pm

First Seth. You are out there. Do you have a black power poster in your apartment also. You are very confused. Al Sharpton does not claim that his purposes are to be a “media Watchdog”. He claims to be looking out for the black man. And Again just listen to what he says. The bottom line is he is trying to make a buck. And yes I get alot of my info from watching tv. But its from listening to his interviews. Maybe you should try getting your info from news channels not from liberal cartoons. You are spoon fed much more dribble through those idiotic cartoon shows that you think are just for laughs. And yes Jello Bill and the Rev have different goals. Thats what I am saying. The Rev’s goals are stupid,racist, and evil. I think Sharton is doing a black pride march this weekend if you want to go. as much as you idolize him, he probably wouldn’t except you because you are white.

Comment by Cleveland Steamer — April 23, 2007 @ 12:35 pm

Ooooo, Seth said you’re spoon fed! (he sang in a child-like, taunting kind of way)

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 12:36 pm

I would go to the rally, but I’m too afraid you’ll show up in your ghost costum and drag me behind your pick-up.

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 12:38 pm

I am going to spoon feed you some protein powder and steroids michael

Comment by Cleveland Steamer — April 23, 2007 @ 12:39 pm

Just make sure it’s a silver spoon! “OH SNAP!”

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 12:39 pm

LOL.

Comment by Cleveland Steamer — April 23, 2007 @ 12:41 pm

BAM! I just took it up a notch!

Comment by Topeka Destroyer! — April 23, 2007 @ 12:43 pm

Oooo, another good shot by Seth! Well, I’m with you Seth. The truth is, Cosby’s attitude is great, but it is too quiet to be effective. Sharpton is using the only currently effective way to suppress racism against BLACKS. I emphasized blacks because he does directly/indirectly promote racism against whites. Either way, you cannot blame him because it truly does take a fighter like him to make a difference. I truly believe he is annoying and offensive, but a good protector of the blacks, which is needed whether you like it or not. Racism against blacks certainly exists, and it takes hardcore extremists to fight them. If the blacks were too quiet, as you guys seem to think they should be, then blacks would get run all over. If it weren’t for people like him, you wouldn’t see as many blacks in commercials and in good corporate positions, even though many deserve the opportunity, straight up. This is probably just a phase in the continuum of progression from segregation. Meaning, tactics will probably change over time as people become even less racist (you have to remember that older, racist folk are still around and still in power, and, most importantly, still teaching younger kids to be racist against blacks).

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 12:47 pm

WOW! My compliment to Seth backfired!!

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 12:48 pm

Okay, blue now… I will say, Rev. S. IS totally wrong for being one-sided, though. He should fight for antiracism in general with special emphasis on blacks. Meaning, he should fight against the blacks that are abusing their rights to publicly be racist on television and such too.

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 12:53 pm

Michael you are wrong!! What more can I say.

Also that is a sweet patch I think I might get one of those to wear around.

Comment by Elvis — April 23, 2007 @ 12:53 pm

NIGGA PLEEEZ!!

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 12:58 pm

Whatever… Strom is gone! Doesn’t that mean the racists are outa’ power? Anyway… Michael didn’t get what I was say’n at all.

Extreamism is not the only way. It works, but there are other and better ways.
Also, encouraging racism against whites? Give me a break! He is sugesting that the privalage of being white is striped away so we are equal… if you wanna interpret that as “racism” I would sugest caution, that thought will give you food poisoning because it’s half baked! That’s like the people that say we are killing the gays because we believe their behavior is a sin!

Comment by Topeka Destroyer! — April 23, 2007 @ 12:59 pm

Where’s the dern patch anyway?!

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 12:59 pm

Oh, okay… I see the type is black again… RACIST!

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 1:00 pm

Can you guys see my coments?

I just want to clarify something… I think as well intentioned as the Rev is, he is still hypocritical for not demanding the same standard from all races.

Also… just broke my Sudoku record! 6min 55seconds!

Comment by Topeka Destroyer! — April 23, 2007 @ 1:02 pm

Michael come on, you are totally just playing the devils advocate here, we all know your stance on it! You are just tying to be arguementative. What happened to the sight, who is jacking around?

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 1:03 pm

Hello? Can you see my comments? I demand to be heard!

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 1:04 pm

What comments, your last one was of Bill’s Jello!

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 1:05 pm

NIGGA #2, PULEEEZ!!

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 1:08 pm

Man, I typed a few posts that are not showing up… so here goes!

First, I was not saying that extreamism is the only way to change things… though, Michael, I could see why you would interpret it that way! “OH SNAP!” There are other and better ways to influence people.

Also, even though I disagree with you sucka’s about the Rev I still think he is hypocritical for not demanding the same standard from all races.

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 1:09 pm

Gee wiz, Seth. Didn’t mean to give you so much credit when you didn’t deserve it. I guess I stand alone with the truth!

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 1:11 pm

Typical attitude of the afluent! Get a job and you won’t have time for extreamism.

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 1:12 pm

I guess you guys don’t know Seth’s mom already gave me a job…

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 1:14 pm

Well, that’s what you like Doms, you like to be the one standing alone, its why you do it! LOL What a shot by seth, subtle! LOL

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 1:14 pm

holy crap the comments are coming to fast! Where was the job comment?

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 1:15 pm

I eat subtle for breakfast.

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 1:18 pm

What is that supposed to mean, LOL and i still can’t find the job comment but it is true about getting a job. Just do a search on LDS.org for responsibility, accountability or priorities and we are instructing to be continuously engaged in work. If the mind wonders to much, you think to much (about crazy stuff) and you get off the straight and narrow. That is what happened to Doms! LOL, he’s always thinking about things to much, to much.

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 1:24 pm

What job comment? Seth’s or mine? Seth said I need a job. I informed him that his mom already gave me one. It pays big too!

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 1:29 pm

You girls really have me figured out, huh.

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 1:31 pm

Oh, i thought seth was ripping on the comment someone else made, like saying that it is a typical response by the affluent … for people to get a job and quit worrying about things.

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 1:31 pm

Michael said, “I guess I stand alone with the truth!”

And, I said he was a snob… who needed a job! All this race crap, has me rapin’ “OH SNAP!”… word

Anyway… I didn’t think subtle was approved by your secret health society… I mean, it’s on the food pramid… but the guys who created the food pyramid don’t think it should be there after all, they just make you go to grad school before they tell you! (too much?… that was a little complicated to be considered a quip, I think… maybe a quessay)

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 1:44 pm

you guys are hot and heavy blogging today. I do agree extremism comes from people with too much time on their hands. Thinking too much will make you crazy. It is crazy that no even half of us have jobs at age 28. What in the world have you guys done with the last 10 years of your lives. You guys could have had masters degrees and been working for a couple of years. And the funny thing you guys want to do several more years of college with out jobs. Mind boggling. Can you imagine being 30 years old still in college and never having had a real job. Not even a summer job or anything. Wild and wacky. I don’t know if you guys are the kinda people I would want to go into business with. LOL. Jon maybe it should just be the 2 of us. No use giving these guys a free ride to success.

Comment by Elvis — April 23, 2007 @ 1:48 pm

Easy now… First off, parenting counts as a job. Dan’t make me quote you in the wives forum!

Second, building a house… 30 hour a week comitment… also a job. I’m gonna make about 30k this next year, not bad for still being in school.

Third, now that we are makin’ headway with that little thing, what’s it called… oh yea, “Cripleing depression!”… I’m really excited to enter the work force.

So I guess what Spence must be saying is, “Michael… get a job!”

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 1:54 pm

I personally am working harder than you have ever imagined, Spence. You know why? Because imagination takes a brain, and you don’t have one. You have ZERO experience actually conditioning your brain to learn something more than a story. You couldn’t read the introduction of any of my books. Secondly, I have money right around the corner for all my hard work. And, you know what else, I have something else that comes with my work that you will never experience - respect. I don’t think you know what it means to sacrifice for something you really want. Money is for babies (literally). If you can’t do some hardcore sacrificing for what you want, then why should you deserve anything? As much as I’d enjoy the comfort of big bucks, I enjoy the security of my future, and I enjoy the work needed to get that kind of security. It’s very rewarding to increase the mind. It is a shame to let it go to waste as you are doing by never challenging it.

p.s. lol to make it less offensive.

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 2:00 pm

ROFLOL, Those last two comments were hilarious

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 2:01 pm

whoops, i mean the two previous before michaels, and i think spence has to be the most imaginative one, heck he’s in sales!

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 2:03 pm

Oh, I see… The first sentence of my last post applies to ol Slothy-boy too… Of course, we all know Webster’s definition of “Sloth” - Seth’s earned nickname…

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 2:04 pm

That reminds me, Jon… You and everyone else claiming, “You must be moderate.” and “You can’t be extreme.” and “Again, you can’t be extreme.” and all related quotes are just examples of you guys being extremes for moderation. Why don’t you guys open your eyes… AND LOOK IN THE MIRROR!

And what does “ROFLOL” mean!? I can’t help but always pronounce that thing in my mind on accident upon seeing it!!

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 2:08 pm

I think the only slothful thing here was the jab at my nickname. Too easy. If thats all that toned brain can come up with, let’s hope your work doesn’t involve humor! “OH SNAP!”

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 2:11 pm

Extreamist for moderate… really? REALLY? That’s just ridiculous. You had that dictionary out earlier… well, pull ‘er back out!

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 2:13 pm

Come on Michael, Extremism for Moderation! ROFLOL (That is me rolling on the floor laughing out loud, you have to know these things to be on a blog!) That is a pretty funny stretch.

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 2:14 pm

I thinks it’s funny that the day work comes up is the day with the most posts on this lil’ blog. While we’re lookin’ words up, check out irony!

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 2:15 pm

Seth, I guess I should have put the word of emphasis in big bold letters so you wouldn’t have slothfully glazed over it…

And Jon, you’re being extreme again. Tone it down a little.

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 2:17 pm

What chew talk’n bout willis!

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source ex·treme (ĭk-strēm’) Pronunciation Key
adj.
Most remote in any direction; outermost or farthest: the extreme edge of the field.
Being in or attaining the greatest or highest degree; very intense: extreme pleasure; extreme pain.
Extending far beyond the norm: an extreme conservative. See Synonyms at excessive.
Of the greatest severity; drastic: took extreme measures to conserve fuel.

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 2:21 pm

No, No, NOOO! WhaCHEW TALKIN BOUT! Webster’s - “analytic philosophy”: a philosophical movement that seeks the solution of philosophical problems in the analysis of propositions or sentences — called also philosophical analysis

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 2:29 pm

Maybe you should have put the word of emphasis in big bold letters… then we would know, right away, which one you needed to look up because you don’t know the meaning!

GJ Jonny… I could ROTFLMAO all day long with this blog!

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 2:32 pm

Well, michael looks like you popped on the boxing gloves and want to go a few rounds. I prefer ultimate fighting to boxing though. The fighting is much more dirty, and the punches hurt a lot more without boxing gloves on. So You seem a little confused as to what I do. I have put in plenty of work and sacrifice. And that is a typical response of someone who is in college to automatically assume that that is the only way to learn or gain knowledge. I mean it makes sense to think that. How else could you rationalize the amount of money and time you are putting into it. You would have to believe that. Don’t get me wrong I don’t have anything against college. I don’t have a problem with you guys going to college, or still being in college. Whats crazy is that you haven’t worked during college. Jon went full time to school, worked 30 hours a week, and probably put in another 20 hours a week of halo, and still spent plenty of time with the family. You don’t need more than 7 hours of sleep per night, which leaves you 17 hours a day(amazing I knew that without going to college huh) Lets be excessive and say you spend 10 hours a day at school. What in the sweet moses do you do with the other 7 hours. I think you would be shocked if we went back over the last few years and added up your xbox time. I bet on an average week it adds up to 20 hours. Sickening. even so that still leaves another 4 hours a day. again the math on that would be, you could easily earn $400 to $500 a month, which again is less than I make in a day, but it would change your life. I think by not working you are creating more sacrifice than you need to. You would have people believe that you don’t have time to. But because my sense is common, I know otherwise. Again I would be very interested to know how many of the other people in your program are working while in school. some of them probably even have families(your rat dog doesn’t count as a family). I guess I’ll throw in a LOL also. I am really not trying to be offensive, just a good friend who’s looking out for you.

And seth is the $30k your going to make next going to be the $30k I will pay in taxes.

The Angry Dolphin

Comment by Elvis — April 23, 2007 @ 2:36 pm

LOL, who threw those two words together to make themselves sound smart! “Analytic Philosophy” That is rich! How about “analystical ethos” or “philosophical hedonism”

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 2:36 pm

Well it sure has been a treat, ladies. Now it’s time to put down the books, the articles, the important emails, the papers I’m writing (for money by the way) and go to the meeting, and then the OTHER important meeting. I guess the fun will die down while I’m gone since I’ve carried you 12 year old girls all day.

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 2:38 pm

Do you call classes meetings michael. That is funny. And are you writing papers for penthouse or for xbox magazine?

Comment by Elvis — April 23, 2007 @ 2:44 pm

Oh man, i have to stop laughing! I just can’t control it! People are starring at me here!….. Yep, michael, you definitely carried the show! Good luck with those “important” meetings, just remember that important is relative.

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 2:45 pm

My job is a million times more taxing than yours, Spence. As I do frequently spend more than 17 hours at a time studying, working, etc, it isn’t possible to do that 100% of the time. If all I had to do was sit and promise people everything they wanted to hear, then that would be easy for 20 hours a day. Instead, I have to learn how to prove my statements (that’d get you into tons of trouble if you had that burden, huh?).

Anyway, another good day on the blog. Things got hairy toward the end, but I wasn’t phased. I think Spence is though. Jon might be a little as well. Well, now that I think about it, I think Sloth may be too. Oh well, dish it out, but can’t take it. On an honest note, Spence, since we’re being honest, how long do you think your job will last? Do you have a good backup plan? I must admit I can’t imagine it lasting too much longer. Anyway, just a thought. Alright, I’m out. Meeting at 3:00. Don’t be hurt by the truth guys (me being the truth). Learn from it.

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 2:52 pm

The jealousy is almost unbearable around here…

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 2:53 pm

I thought he was goin to a meeting?

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 2:54 pm

ROFLOL, so i see Michael is the “truth” now. Wow, that is a pretty big accolade to dump on oneself! : ) I really can’t stop cheesing here, I don’t know if DOMS is being serious or cracking some jokes? and where did the jealousy comment come from? It was good to be on the oustide of the battle for once looking in, very comical

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 3:02 pm

man, i looked on the site this morning and there were 3 comments. i come back a couple of hours later and there are 68. man, this is intense.

alright, i’ll make my rant quick because the topics have definitely moved on.

extremism sucks. its an ineffective tool and you alienate your audience. its an intimidation and scare tactic and most of the time its works against you.

you guys mentioned bill cosby. look at colin powell or condaleeza rice. they have made incredible political careers and are very respected in their professions yet they are continually berated by the black community for selling out. the extremists believe that they are just playing the game and saying horrible things about them.

it is a very fine line between pushing for racial equality and pushing for racial superiority. the same thing with the sexes. many feminists don’t want to be equal, they want to be better. its a horrible mind set and it only causes rifts instead of bringing people closer to a common goal.

you say that not being extreme is too quiet and that extremism gets more attention. it begs the question, what kind of people are you going to attract. i was a concert recently and the band “the casualties” were playing. they are crust punk band they can get pretty rowdy and they are really political. so the singer stops in the middle of the show and says ” we come from a neighborhood were its hard to get people to listen to you. you have to say words like f*%# to get people to pay attention.” and i though, man, you just degraded yourself about 20 levels by saying that and what kind of attention do you want to get by saying crap like that.

plus, why do people feel they need to apologize to al sharpton. who’s he to accept an apology for the whole of black people?

there are still racist people and this is still a racist world. if you don’t think so then you really don’t get out much. you might not be racist. but a lot of people are.

i have a job. i worked in college and i’m getting a job at the same place jon works. so spence, if you have something to say then say it to tuffy as well. i don’t think there’s anything wrong with getting an education, especially since that’s what the prophet has commanded us to do.

what is DOMS?

Comment by The Scam — April 23, 2007 @ 3:32 pm

oh yea, money is in no way a measure of how successful or worthwhile a person’s life is. just because they make life choices that don’t lead them to a lot of money doesn’t mean they waste their time. my brother in law is ridiculously smart and he’s a teacher because that’s what he wants to do. so what if spencer makes 3 times as much as him. money isn’t everything. it certainly shouldn’t be the driving factor in your life decisions.

Comment by The Scam — April 23, 2007 @ 3:35 pm

Very true comments indeed Scam (DOMS is Michael) So is there a difference between someone who thinks money is important and people that don’t have it are beneath him, …. or the smart person whoe thinks intelligence is important and less-educated people are beneath him????? I would argue that they are in the same boat!

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 3:42 pm

very interesting. that’s a good point. but where do we find the balance in that situation. a really smart rich guy who thinks he’s above everyone? i’ll let you know about that one, i’m almost there. j/k.

but seriously, you’re right. i know a ton of professors that don’t make a ton of money but think they are just so much better than anyone alive. i want to punch them in the face. elitism is a huge problem in the world. i think it plays a role in everything we’ve mentioned, race, sex, etc. some person thinks he’s better than the next guy and has to say something about it.

why can’t we all just be content with each person’s individual awesomeness and respect qualities in others that we might not possess. of course, easier said than done…

Comment by The Scam — April 23, 2007 @ 4:12 pm

Here’s how i see it. if i was stranded on a desert island with a bunch of people, would i be able to contribute? no. i’m basically worthless. plus, when they find out i’m a lawyer they’ll probably kill me first. sometimes i wish i were a doctor or an engineer. then i would actually be useful to society. right now i just live off of society.

Comment by The Scam — April 23, 2007 @ 4:21 pm

Where was the voice of reason when I was getting bashed? Scam, what did you mean by, “you have to say words like f*%# to get people to pay attention.” and i though, man, you just degraded yourself about 20 levels by saying that and what kind of attention do you want to get by saying crap like that.” Who degraded their self?

I’m not necessarily condoning extremism, but I am saying it is what is working. Who did you see putting all the pressure on Michael Richards? And why did Richards feel any pressure? Because Sharpton is aggressive, and that may be an alternative way of describing him, rather than extreme. I felt he was not extreme in the Richard’s case. As for him accepting the apology for everyone, he was in position to do that since he was the one pushing to destroy Richards for his remarks. Also, he was in position to be an example by accepting forgiveness when he could easily have been too extreme to do that. I don’t mean to keep bringing up Richards, but that’s a good example and about the only one I know. But, again, Sharpton is wrong for not fighting blacks that abuse their racial rights.

Do you guys think it is extreme to fire someone for saying, “nappy-headed hos”? You probably do. Now, do you think the next guy will be so quick to slip at the tongue with a slur like that? Nope. Why? Because this kind of “extreme” action scares people to the middle like I said before. It’s unfortunate that it has to be this way, but it does.

What else? Oh, I had CLASS at 8:30AM, then a MEETING at 3PM, then another MEETING at 3:45, then I’ll have CLASS again at 6:30-9PM. Understand? Good.

Comment by Michael — April 23, 2007 @ 4:39 pm

The band that was playing said that. the lead singer felt that he had to swear to get people’s attention. he had to be extreme to make his political views heard.

my point was, by being so extreme (i.e. dropping the f-bomb, being aggressive, claiming one race is better than the next, etc.) you attract a certain group of people. the kind of people that like what you are saying and how you are saying it. i see that point that some people have to be extreme to force others to the middle, but by doing so, they attract a small group of followers that in turn become extreme. so, if enough people keep getting extreme then we are no longer in balance.

basically, i didn’t think the singer’s approach was very affective, sort of how i think sharpton’s approach could be toned down a bit. an appeal to reason and logic works best for me, but then again, people respond differently to different things.

Comment by The Scam — April 23, 2007 @ 4:53 pm

why is it that as soon as i get into the mix, everyone takes off?

Comment by The Scam — April 23, 2007 @ 6:43 pm

well this isnt going to be to long since i am typing from my phone while driving and i have almost crashed 10 times already.
first cam i never said you guys shouldnt go to collegs infact i said it is good. and i was not refering to you about not having a job. i would assume law school has more and harder “meetings”. LOL additionally i never said the amount of money one makes is a measure of anything. that was a very interesting comparisson by Jon thugh about intelligence pride.

michael my job will last untill i have made enough hat i dont need to work anymore. the product we sell is kinda like yours. we sell the people whatever they ant at the time. its always changing. just like your product, ours changes based on what will sell best. so i will provide more feedback later on a much larger keyboard.

and those people deserved what michael richards called them.

jimmy out !!!!

Comment by kramer — April 23, 2007 @ 7:15 pm

I thought Spence’s coments about money and school where thoughtful. It’s funny how people used their preconcieved notions about him to put all kinds of words in his mouth though. Sure, he has made about 17 thousand jokes at our expense about the pointlessness of college and the inadaquacey of poor people, but c’mon… we all knew he was joking. The first time he ever makes a serious and encouraging statement and you idiots go and ruin it… oh well.

I like Scam’s thought about the crowd extreamists draw. It’s so true, just look at the uneducated loudmouths that flock to that O’Riely guy! BAM! lol… It’s funny how so much of today’s heated responses started with simple obvious jokes. Do you guys realize that I told Michael to get a job… and then the turd hit the fan. It couldn’t have been a more obvious joke. It has sure been entertaining… I gotta get plenty of rest tonight so I’ll be prepared to throw down some more incendiary remarks tomarow. This has been a great way to pass the time while I’m waiting for the house work to start and for Rachel to get out’a school. Good times!

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 7:46 pm

Hey, who are the idiots? I never bashed on spencer? I say to each his own, …. so what if seth makes pots and does the ghost treatment with rachael. Who cares if cameron chases ambulances and awards criminal money that costs the tax payers billions. Who cares if spencer takes money from an old lady. Who cares if Michael makes so earth shattering research on the breakdown of carbs in asparagus and how it affects your colon. And who cares if I become an destroy the dinosaurs and pump vicious fumes in the air to make a buck! …. well you should all care! But that doesn’t mean you are any better or more important that anyone else. People may stroke your ego and build you up and think your cool, but it all comes down to the gospel. That is what is important, how are you living the gospel. Then we can distinguish who is better or worse, or i should say that the man upstairs will be able to distinguish who is a “good and faithful servant.
I must say that i think spence should have his own stand-up routine, i was dying all day! Also, i don’t think quessay is a word. What was that?

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 8:32 pm

Sorry if i jumped the gun on you, suspence. i had to read through 78 comments quickly enough to get my 2 cents in before the topic changed. i hope everyone knows that i don’t mean to offend either.

alright, i think we should all come up with nicknames that we can use to conceal our identities - much like truckers have “handles”. We’ve sort of been doing it already but i thought i would make the official declaration. Spencer’s can be “coco”.

Comment by The Scam — April 23, 2007 @ 8:39 pm

Will yours be dingles?, Can i be momma rex?

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 9:08 pm

coco… can’t stop laughing! And what’s are you apologizing for? Having an opinion. I don’t know why there is so much apologizing on this blog. We are just a couple friends havin’ a good time at each others expense. I have quite enjoyed all of it. And, if you do feel like you need to apologize, maybe you should think about what you say a little harder before you blurt it out. “OH SNAP!”

So, any sugestions for my “handle”? You have my express permision to bring the hurt! So, don’t feel like you need to apologize.

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 9:12 pm

momma rex… am I missing something? Even if I am, it’s stil real funny!

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 9:13 pm

How about Flokati!

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 9:15 pm

like the rug? that’s too rich

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 9:16 pm

Though I was kinda hoping for more of a phallic reference…

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 9:17 pm

i think the traditional “sloth” would be in order. what the crap is flokati?

momma rex…man, that is funny. where did that come from?

Comment by The Scam — April 23, 2007 @ 9:18 pm

you mean phallic huh SP! ROFLOL

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 9:19 pm

I have to admit Flokati is hilarious! I’m pretty proud of myself on that one, (pats on the back). We almost bought one!

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 9:21 pm

since they’ve running reruns of american gladiator, maybe michael can be “blaze” or “lace”

Comment by The Scam — April 23, 2007 @ 9:21 pm

lol… my spelling is crap!

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 9:21 pm

lace… I think I pooped a little! GJ

Comment by Seth — April 23, 2007 @ 9:22 pm

Yep, I’m turtle’n!

Comment by jtuffy — April 23, 2007 @ 9:25 pm

good times, boys.

i’m out for the night.

Comment by The Scam — April 23, 2007 @ 9:29 pm

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